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Old May 25th, 2009 May 25, 2009 1:00:30 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I seem to be having trouble with a run I get a nice white pass and let it dry for 1/2 hour and the ink wicks bleeds run what ever its doing it makes the **** messed up

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Old May 25th, 2009 May 25, 2009 1:54:47 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: gray shirt white ink bleeding

What's your ink setting? I can't really tell if this is the case, but is it white that is bleeding into the black. If this is the case, Do you have the highlight enabled? One something like this, I might use content based, and have the black at medium dot level 1.
 
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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

Some ways to reduce this

1) Use less pretreatment so that the white doesn't pool as much
2) Use less white ink layer
3) Don't use white highlights
4) Let the white underbase dry more before printing the colour layer
 
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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

ok here are my settings
I have the white set to 3 with underbase set at 50
the ink pass is set to 3
I was thinking set ink to 1 and run 3 passes as 2 looks light
seems that the white letters print with the black and I get smudge
one shirt came out great and they want more


p.s. I did use a hair dryer and the white was dry im sure
but less pretreatment thats a good idea
dose the under base affect the white on the second pass as this seems to be the problem
 
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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

If the underbase is fine you dont need a 2nd pass of white or white highlight. I think thats the problem.
 
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If the underbase is fine you dont need a 2nd pass of white or white highlight. I think thats the problem.
I did not add a second pass with white but the letters are white and may print at the ink pass?
 
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Hmmm, I'm not using the same RIP as you. But with my RIP you can tell it not to print white again in the 2nd pass. I'm sure there must be a setting in your RIP to tell it that but I can't help you out there
 
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I think that would fix this

dame 4 bad shirts
pretreat, ink, shirts, time .
this is costing me
 
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Old May 25th, 2009 May 25, 2009 9:32:15 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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dark colors always last.
 
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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

can someone give an explanation on content base and highlight ?
you would think if the letters are white that it will print first but I guess not
 
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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

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can someone give an explanation on content base and highlight ?
you would think if the letters are white that it will print first but I guess not
Ken, there's more detail in the help files, but here goes:

Content Based removes underbase from black and to a certain degree dark colors. Think of it as a greyscale in reverse. If you were on a black shirt there would be no reason to waste ink printing white then covering that with black ink if you do not need to. The "contrast" numbers mean that...at a lower number it .25 leaves more underbase (low contrast) or 5.5 means nocks out all dark colors including black.
Highlight ( the slider control) controls how much white can be printed on the Color pass in the highlight or pure white areas. If you are getting a good base down on simple graphics there is very little reason to enable this. If you do more photo real type art, you can reduce the underbase and increase the highlight for better results.
Color mixing (since were here anyway) actually mixes a little white in with your colors as you print the color layer. Contrast control works similar to the underbase. used correctly, this can add a little brightness and pop to light colors. Too much, and they will pastel or wash them out.
To get a handle on these controls, you have to experiment on when and how to use them.
 
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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

Highlight ( the slider control) controls how much white can be printed on the Color pass
I did have this at 50% and seems that I dont need the white on the color pass I will try this
here goes another $10

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Default Re: black shirt white ink bleeding

yes it was the highlight setting,
 
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